GOD'S WAY OF HEALING - THE VOICE OF TRUTH PART 196

GOD'S WAY OF HEALING - THE VOICE OF TRUTH PART 196

THE VOICE OF TRUTH PART 196 - GOD'S WAY OF HEALING

Father Martino: I respectfully greet Father Dominic and Thien Thuong, and all esteemed viewers and listeners watching today's interview on The Voice of Truth Channel. Please, Father Dominic and Thien Thuong, extend your greetings to our esteemed viewers and listeners.

Father Dominic: Greetings, Father Martino. My respectful greetings to our esteemed viewers and listeners on The Voice of Truth Channel.

Thien Thuong: I respectfully greet Father Martino and all esteemed viewers and listeners watching The Voice of Truth Channel.

Father Martino: Recently, there has been conflicting public opinion suggesting that many people who come to the House of God the Father fall into traps. It is claimed that those working at the House of God the Father exploit spirituality to commit wrongdoings, treating incurable diseases through superstitious practices. In today's interview, we will hear the sharing of Father Dominic and Thien Thuong regarding this conflicting information. Therefore, we invite our esteemed viewers and listeners to tune into today's sharing session.

First, I would like to invite Father Dominic to share his perspective. But before he shares, I also want to briefly introduce him to our esteemed viewers and listeners. Father Dominic is a teaching priest. He has 45 years of experience teaching Formal Logic. When we speak of Formal Logic, we are talking about logic, about truth, about what needs to be clear and principled. From your perspective, Father, do you believe the events occurring at the House of God the Father are superstitious?

Father Dominic: Thank you for the question, Father. Before delving into this issue, I would like to define "superstition" as per religious policy. What is superstition? They define it as follows: superstition is believing in vague, nonsensical things such as fortune-telling, healing with magic, leading to negative consequences for individuals, families, and communities regarding health, time, property, and potentially human lives. This is the definition of superstition found in religious scriptures.

So, when we consider what is called "superstition," there is certainly no one here practicing fortune-telling. As for healing with magic, our method of healing involves no magic at all. Here, the method of healing is simply that individuals who have received God's graces lay hands on people to heal them. However, regarding this laying on of hands, this healing here, God continuously advances us. There are times when it is necessary to touch the patient, but it is only a very gentle laying of hands on the body.

Now, even when performing these healings, we don't even need to touch the patient anymore. Therefore, if anyone calls this superstition or magic, we are not performing any magic at all. All of this is simply God's grace bestowed upon us, through God using our hands to help the sick.

So, regarding all these matters, if we want to discuss an aspect, we must know what purpose this work serves. If we were doing this now to seek benefit, fame, or anything else, but we are not doing anything here, nor are we collecting any money from anyone. What fame? We have no fame at all; in fact, we are even called "witches," and sometimes even labeled as "heresy." I find this quite surprising. We are Catholic faithful, with a proper religion, not a heresy. There are things that science cannot prove. So, in this field, if we inadvertently label it "superstition," that is an issue I find unacceptable.

In this regard, I wish to address one primary aspect. Regarding the term “heresy” used here, I reaffirm: we are Catholic faithful, a respectable religion, not a heresy. Secondly, our actions are transparent to everyone; there is no magic involved whatsoever. All these works and methods may not be in the sense of a medical issue, not healing with medicine or anything else. So we are not doing anything that could be called wrong in this regard. It is simply a method that we call God's grace bestowed upon us in our work to help all patients. I just want to state that. Now, whoever wishes to call it whatever they want, that is their right to call it, but it is necessary to reconfirm the correct method and terminology.

Thien Thuong: I would like to share another thought with Father Dominic: God changes His healing methods in each stage. For example, when God first used me to lay hands on patients to heal them, I only needed to lay my hands on the patient's head and pray to God, and God healed them. There was no pain, nothing at all. And Ms. Khue was the first person I laid hands on, and she was cured of cancer. And now, she is collaborating with me, working with me. And it continues to the next stage.

Then God used these individuals to work with me, meaning I had to transfer demons through them, and these individuals had to endure pain to receive the demons from the patient. The patient also had to endure a little pain for these individuals to receive the demons. There were actions like patting the person. Then, when the demon possesses a person, it performs actions such as crawling and other such things. When one first sees it, it feels uncomfortable to watch, which is why I said that the Fathers should not watch those video excerpts to judge. One must come to the actual place and watch from beginning to end to truly understand. If one only watches excerpts showing only crawling, people will not accept that.

Then, in the next stage, we no longer need to touch the patient. When transferring demons, neither the patient nor the demon receiver touches each other at all. God still uses this to heal. I would like to add one more thing: when some people here say it is superstition or coercion, I affirm that I do not coerce anyone, nor do I invite anyone. People come on their own and ask for my help. Most of the people who come here are those who are at their wit's end, who have lost faith in life. They have been to many hospitals but could not find a diagnosis. My home is a private residence, not a medical facility, so I help the sick who come here with a heartfelt compassion and love for one another. We work transparently. What we do is for God, out of love for others, along with the sacrifice of myself and those who work here.

This healing comes from God and can only be proven by the faith and conviction of those who are healed. Because only those who are healed truly understand this. And everyone who comes to my home does not have to pay any cost.

Father Martino: Thank you, Father Dominic and Thien Thuong for sharing so that everyone can see that the work at the House of God the Father is completely without magic and completely without superstition. Everything is based on the Catholic faith, based on the power of God over evil spirits. And God always reminds everyone to live pleasing to Him, and then God heals. Those who sincerely wish to understand the truth, so that public opinion may be at peace, should feel free to come and learn, because the House of God is always open to all who wish to seek the truth.

 God has instructed Thien Thuong, as well as everyone, to work through different stages. Therefore, Thien Thuong's experience to this day is likely very rich. Could Thien Thuong please inform our esteemed audience about the method of exorcism that God uses and how it differs from the exorcism practiced within the Church?

Thien Thuong: Thank you, Father. I would like to share with Father and everyone that the Church has its own method of exorcism. The Church's method of exorcism requires holy objects, sacred objects, and the Word of God in the Holy Scripture. The Word of God in the Holy Scripture is the eternal Word of God, because what happened over two thousand years ago and what God wanted humanity to know and preserve was passed down through the Word of God, through Jesus coming into the world as a human, so that everyone would know how the Word of God saves everyone. The Word of God is established, thus demons must fear. The Church emphasizes that exorcism must involve the Word of God and only believes in the established Word of God through the Holy Scripture.

However, in this place, God the Father allows everyone to know the combination of the Word of God through the Holy Scripture and the Real Word of God. The Word of God in the Holy Scripture is the established and historical Word, which is eternal. But the Word of God through Thien Thuong is the Real Word of God and the true Word of God in life, to instruct people step by step to fight against demons and confront them. When the Word of God comes through Thien Thuong, demons must fear and bow down, obey and listen. The Word of God through Thien Thuong is the Real Word of God, because Thien Thuong is also consecrated by God and receives grace from God. God places the pen in Thien Thuong's hand, and the Word of God that Thien Thuong writes to cast out demons is the Real Word of God that God wants to teach humanity. And demons must fear through that Real Word of God.

Humans cannot directly confront demons, so God the Father allows everyone to proceed step by step, stage by stage. The initial stage is for everyone to cast out demon possession and demonic oppression, so we have done those things. When God uses my hand to write down the Word of God, then upon reading the Word of God, demons will have to obey. And when Father sees us casting out demons, when I write down the Word of God, the demons must obey. If the written Word of God is not present, no one can do anything.

God the Father’s method of exorcism does not follow the Church's formula for exorcism. God the Father’s method of exorcism is prayer, supplication to God, self-sacrifice, love, and forgiveness. That is the renunciation of sin. God's method of exorcism is precisely God's mercy and God's power. Demons must fear. In ancient times, God only used His mercy and love to forgive that person's sins, and then demons would leave the body of that sick person. Today, God Himself has let everyone know that simply through forgiveness and the washing away of sins, demons will leave the body of the sick person. And only those who receive God's grace and are courageous, and only those chosen by God in God's spirit, can dare to confront demons and bring them into the light for a direct confrontation. Just like us, we have cast out demons through those who received demons, and the demons were forced to say what God commanded them to say.

Father Dominic: Speaking of demons and exorcism, I would also like to share a few things here.

First of all, as Catholics, surely everyone knows that we have rituals such as sprinkling holy water. Holy water is water that has been blessed by priests according to a specific formula, and the act of sprinkling holy water also has value in exorcism, but it is not the same as the method we are currently employing. However, does anyone consider the rituals of sprinkling holy water in the Catholic Church to be superstition? It is a part of religious rites that have been practiced from ancient times until now; it cannot be called superstition merely because holy water is used.

Secondly, regarding exorcism, I have personally experienced many cases since I began practicing spiritual energy in 1991. However, the exorcism I performed at that time did not follow the Church's formula. The difference lies in the fact that, previously, when people spoke of exorcism, they usually thought of exorcising possession. Exorcising possession means when a demon has completely taken over a person's body, controlling all their actions. And the method of exorcism we are performing here addresses demonic oppression from its very onset, meaning it is present in the soul, inciting people to commit evil within each person's soul. When these types of demons are cast out, it helps people completely change their lives, no longer committing sin and living according to all that God teaches. This is our method of exorcism, referred to as exorcising demonic oppression, not demonic possession.

Previously, when practicing spiritual energy, I simply laid hands, and in some cases, demons left people easily. But now it is different. Now, the issue of exorcism is clearer. There are cases where demons refuse to leave; I tell them to go, but they don't. However, after Thien Thuong writes God's Word on paper, and I command, then the demons finally leave. 

Therefore, the grace of the Real Word of God, as Thien Thuong just shared, is different. As for God's Word in the Bible, demons still fear it; it's not that they don't. Demons also fear holy objects and holy water; it's not that they don't. However, the question is whether these possess sufficient power to cast out demons.. Therefore, the exorcism work we are performing here takes on an entirely different aspect; it is solely through God's grace. From the perspective of demons, humans are naturally nothing, and no one can do anything against evil spirits. And regarding these invisible works, if one claims they are superstition based on their invisible nature, then that judgment needs to be re-evaluated. For who can prove these invisible things? If the work we are doing here is fake, then a true exorcism specialist needs to come and confirm it. Certainly, an exorcist would be able to discern what constitutes demonic activity or influence. But has any specialist come here now to confirm whether that case is truly demonic or just a performance, as everyone thinks and accuses us of staging a play or a show? That is an issue that needs to be re-evaluated.

I only wish that there would be real demonologists to come here, to clearly confirm that the cases we are handling here are indeed due to demonic influence, and not a matter of human fabrication. That is also what we desire. Because if it hasn't been clearly determined whether it is a demonic issue or not, and yet it is assumed that we are engaging in superstitious acts, then are those judgments sufficiently substantiated and accurate? Thank you.

Thien Thuong: I would like to add that everyone knows only God has the power to cast out demons, but God Himself has used us to perform this work. For demons to be afraid and leave the afflicted person, exorcists like us must know how to sacrifice. Even the patient themselves must sacrifice. What is that sacrifice? It is renouncing oneself and doing everything according to God's will, through fasting, prayer, renouncing all passions, being humble and self-abasement. These are the things God wants us to do, and only by doing them will demons be afraid. According to the Church's formula for exorcism, demons are very afraid of holy objects, sacred items, and God's word in the Bible; that is absolutely true. But if the exorcist does not have true sacrifice, demons will not fear them, and may even resist. Demons are very cunning and fierce. If the exorcist does not live according to what God teaches, demons will never fear that person. At that time, they might be cast out, but then the demons will return, re-enter the patient, and cannot be completely cast out. Therefore, both I and the patient must sacrifice, and only then will God allow the demons in that patient to leave.

Father Martino: Thank you, Thien Thuong, for letting everyone know the difference between the Eternal Word of God and the Real Word of God. Perhaps, the Real Word of God is a new term that many people are hearing for the first time. When we hear Thien Thuong speak like this, if there are those in our church who doubt Thien Thuong's writing of God's word, then this is the best, most opportune chance for us to seek the truth. If we have always thought that Thien Thuong uses magic, is deceitful, or fabricates things, then let us verify whether this is truly God's Real word.

For through the word shared by Thien Thuong, demons will fear God's Real Word just as they fear God's Eternal Word in the Holy Scripture. So, we have a very concrete case to verify: is this truly God's Real word or not?

Perhaps many people think that investigating this matter is too vast, too complex, and we don't know where to start. Today, through this sharing, those who are concerned, those who wish to bring peace to public opinion, we just need to pose the question: is what Thien Thuong writes truly God's Real word or not?

Let us move on to another topic. Many people believe that all illnesses are caused by demons, so when they come to the house of God, they view illness from the perspective of demonic possession. So, Thien Thuong, can you clarify for everyone: are all illnesses caused by demons or not?

Thien Thuong: Yes, I would like to share. The types of illnesses and phenomena where people who come here are possessed by demons and have their bodies controlled are called demon-induced illnesses, and that is the truth. However, there are also some illnesses that are physical, not all 100% caused by demons. For example, if I am in pain, I must take medicine. My daughter is in pain and must take medicine; it's not caused by demons. Therefore, to this day, I still have to seek a doctor for my treatment.

Everyone must know one thing: demons only do evil, not good. Demons enter bodies, cause pain and illness, possess bodies, and tempt people leading to death. That is true. Jesus cast out demons and healed the sick. The Bible has proven this to us.

(Lk 11:11-14): Now Jesus was casting out a demon, and it was mute. When the demon had gone out, the mute man spoke.

I would like to continue sharing. Jesus healed a woman who was bent over. (Lk 13:10-13): He was teaching in a synagogue on the sabbath. And a woman was there who for eighteen years had been crippled by a spirit; she was bent over, completely incapable of standing erect. When Jesus saw her, he called to her and said, "Woman, you are set free of your infirmity." He laid his hands on her, and she at once stood up straight and glorified God.

(Jn 9:6-7): Jesus healed a man blind from birth. He spat on the ground and made clay with the saliva, and smeared the clay on his eyes, and said to him, "Go wash 3 in the Pool of Siloam" (which means Sent). So he went and washed, and came back able to see.

Jesus healed a child with epilepsy. (Mt 17:15-21): "Lord, have pity on my son, for he is a lunatic and suffers severely; often he falls into fire, and often into water. I brought him to your disciples, but they could not cure him." Jesus rebuked him and the demon came out of him,  and from that hour the boy was cured. This kind does not come out except by prayer and fasting

Jesus healed a mute man possessed by a demon. (Mt 9:33-34): When the demon was cast out, the mute man spoke. But the Pharisees said, "He drives out demons by the prince of demons."

(Matthew 8:16-17): Jesus heals all who were ill. When it was evening, they brought him many who were possessed by demons, and he drove out the spirits by a word and cured all the sick, to fulfill what had been said by Isaiah the prophet: "He took away our infirmities and bore our diseases."

Father Dominic: Now, regarding the issue Thuong just presented: there are some illnesses that the Lord said were caused by demons. But there are also illnesses that are not caused by demons. However, within this, there is an act of healing that, if considered from the perspective of the definition of “superstition” and not done according to natural means, brings us back to a point: the Lord's healing of the blind man.

If He healed the blind man, what did the Lord use? He spat on the ground, made mud with the saliva, and put it on the man's eyes, then told him to go wash. After washing, he was cured. So now, is that considered superstition?

So, whether it is superstition or not, what is its outcome? Here, I see very clearly: the reality is whether people are cured or not. And when people are cured, they become suspicious. That is the real issue in determining whether something is superstitious or not. If it were superstition, could it achieve such healing?

Therefore, through this issue, we see very clearly: not all illnesses are caused by demons. I see many other cases. For example, Peter's mother-in-law. She had a fever, and the Lord took her hand and helped her up, and she was cured.

When encountering or a woman with a twelve-year hemorrhage, she only needed to touch Jesus' cloak to be healed. However, that does not mean that all illnesses originate from demons. As stated clearly before, there are illnesses caused by demons, but also illnesses caused by sin, and also illnesses that are simply illnesses. The Bible shows many such cases. For example, the paralytic man was carried by four people and lowered down before Jesus. In that situation, the Lord said: “Rise, pick up your stretcher, and go home. Your sins are forgiven” and also healed him. So his illness was a result of sin. Thus, there are illnesses due to sin, illnesses due to demons, and illnesses due to disease itself; the causes are very diverse. We cannot lump everything together and claim that all illnesses are caused by demons. Such an attribution is incorrect, easily causes confusion, and leads to erroneous conclusions. Generalizing everything is not appropriate.

I myself once had a toothache. At that time, the Lord did not tell me it was caused by demons, but simply directed me to see a dentist for treatment. Therefore, one cannot attribute all illnesses to demons or to sin. Each case is a unique circumstance. What I just mentioned demonstrates that God's healing methods are also very diverse and unique. There was a blind man who was healed by the Lord using saliva mixed with mud and applied to his eyes, then told him to wash, and he received his sight. Therefore, if we want to conclude anything, we need to be extremely cautious. That is what I wanted to share further for everyone to understand clearly.

Father Martino: I also want to share a bit about the issue of healing. If we only use common treatment methods in life, what do we observe? Eastern medicine doctors disagree with Western medicine doctors, and Western medicine doctors disagree with Eastern medicine doctors. This is because their two operating principles are different. When I was still in Vietnam, I used to visit both Eastern and Western medicine doctors for examinations. When I went to an Eastern medicine doctor, they said Western medicine was completely wrong. When I went to a Western medicine doctor, they said Eastern medicine was not based on scientific principles. Both are recognized medical fields worldwide, but depending on each doctor, whoever knows about something will only talk about that, and it's not easy for them to accept the methods of the other.

I see, for example, in foreign countries, people only later accepted acupuncture. Initially, they did not accept it because it was difficult to explain. Inserting a needle into the body to heal and regulate Yin and Yang – they didn't understand what Yin and Yang were. Therefore, there are many things we don't know, yet we hastily conclude they are superstitions. So, the issue of healing at the House of God the Father is by God's healing, and the question arises: How can one prove God exists? This is an extremely complex and difficult issue. We can only rely on the patients' results. Before coming to the House of God the Father, they were ill; after coming to the House of God the Father, they were cured. It is important for us to determine whether that healing is real or fake. If we don't know and hastily label it as superstition, it is because human understanding is limited.

If we see something we don't understand and label it as superstition, we might cause disruption for many people in life. People live peacefully through different methods in life, and each person has different knowledge. Therefore, I hope that anyone who has thought that healing at the House of God the Father is superstition will thoroughly investigate the origins before making statements and concluding that it is superstition. Throughout the past period, God has healed countless patients who came to the House of God, and these individuals have clear test results as evidence. If we want to investigate, there are many witnesses with phone numbers. We can investigate and verify whether their healing at the House of God is true or false. And Thien Thuong also has medical test results. Thien Thuong can let everyone know what the medical test results of these patients are.

Thien Thuong: Yes, I would like to share a little: I am only presenting a few pieces of evidence because, as of today, The Voice of Truth already has 195 videos, plus dozens of exorcism videos. Therefore, the evidence and testimonies are already included there; I will not elaborate further and will only present some evidence:

A patient named Mr. Tran Phu Cuong underwent an X-ray examination and received a result on June 6, 2019, indicating end-stage lung cancer. He came to the House of God to seek healing grace. His first visit was on March 8, 2021, and his second was on April 24, 2021. Each time he visited, he prayed for two days. Subsequently, on April 28, 2021, he underwent a test, and the results showed that the end-stage cancer was gone.

Another case is Ms. Duong Thi Thu, born on February 3, 1966. On March 11, 2019, she went for a medical examination and learned that she had breast cancer.

She came to the House of God in May 2019 to seek healing grace. By May 6, 2020, she underwent a health check-up, and as of now, her condition has returned to normal health. She recorded the following: “I was diagnosed with stage 2B cancer and received treatment at Ho Chi Minh City Oncology Hospital. I underwent surgery and one round of chemotherapy. My health was very weak, all my hair fell out, my skin was dry, I had mouth sores, and my fingernails and limbs were black and bruised. The doctor told me I needed eight more rounds of chemotherapy followed by radiation therapy.

After coming to God the Father’s House, my health returned to normal, and my hair grew back. I had a general check-up at the Oncology Hospital, and the doctor informed me that I no longer needed chemotherapy or radiation therapy. After a four-month follow-up, my health was still normal.” And this is the result of the medical record confirming she is healthy.

Next is the case of an infertile couple. Ms. Vo Thi My Hanh, born in 1983, and her husband, Mr. Vo Van Lai, born in 1970, reside in Hieu Xuan Tay Hamlet, Hieu Thanh Commune, Vung Liem District, Vinh Long Province. The couple married in 2001 and have not had children until now. Upon coming to the House of God the Father, through the prayers and laying on of hands by Father Dominic, she is now pregnant. The 5D ultrasound result confirmed a live embryo in the uterus at 7 weeks and 2 days, with an estimated due date of November 20, 2021.

The next case is Ms. Vu Thi Thuat, who had end-stage cancer. When she came to the House of God to ask for the grace of healing, she was also healed by God. Additionally, there are many other cases of brothers and sisters who were healed by God and testified in the program “The Voice of Truth”.

Father Martino: Thank you, Thien Thuong, for letting the esteemed audience know about the specific evidence of patients with so-called incurable diseases who were healed by God. Here, we affirm: it is not us who heal, nor Thien Thuong who heals, nor Father Dominic who heals, but this healing comes from God. When we rely on God, it cannot be called superstition. That is the faith of us Catholics. We do not rely on any other deities; we only rely on God, the Triune God of our Catholic faith.

Therefore, those who claim this place is superstitious or fraudulent should think carefully, because these are specific, very scientific medical proofs and clear verifications. Thank you, Thien Thuong, for making this known to everyone, so that those who once misunderstood can open their hearts and accept God's work at the House of God the Father.

We would also like to remind everyone that when coming to the House of God with the specific conditions that God calls for, such as living humbly, loving, forgiving, humbling oneself, fasting, and praying, God will heal. However, let us not forget that if we abandon the path God calls us to, or abandon the way of life God guides us in, we may contract old diseases again or new ones. When we do not please God, evil and sickness can intervene and cause us to become ill again.

Therefore, those who come to the House of God and have received grace, God continues to call them to fast, pray, live humbly, humble themselves, love, and forgive.

Perhaps we should also discuss a little more about the conflicting opinions. Some opinions suggest that the activities at the House of God the Father are not in line with the Church's doctrine, or that they do not obey the ordinary, or that the events occurring at the House of God the Father are superstitious, affecting good customs and traditions.

Father Dominic, please share your perspective on these issues with the esteemed audience.

Father Dominic: When someone says that the activities here are not in line with the Church's doctrine, it is necessary to specifically examine what we do. We pray, using two special weapons granted by God in confronting evil spirits: the Rosary and the Chaplet of Divine Mercy. Patients who come need to confess their sins and attend Mass daily. Additionally, they are called to renounce passions, make sacrifices, and practice self-denial. So, are these things contrary to the Church's doctrine?

Regarding the issue of evil spirits, who has truly known anything about them until now? If one does not follow the Church's formula, are they then considered to be acting against the Church's doctrine? And if these actions are said to be against doctrine, I cannot accept that. Because everything we do is aimed at what is right, and the means that God is providing, such as the Rosary and the Chaplet of Divine Mercy, cannot be said to be against the Church's doctrine.

Another part of this issue that arises is the assertion that not obeying the competent authority is incorrect. Disobeying ecclesiastical authority is entirely wrong. Is such a statement correct? Now, I raise a point, which I might have raised before, and I just want to reiterate it now. If I were a German layperson, what would I do? I do not obey the ecclesiastical authority; I do not obey, not even a bishop, but an episcopal conference.

The issue with the German episcopal conference now is that they have decided to enter a synodal process, which the Holy See does not accept. And if, after they complete the synod and all their decisions are issued, what would we do if we were German laypeople? If the synod proceeds in this manner and it is stated that laypeople not obeying ecclesiastical authority is entirely wrong, then is this assertion correct? Therefore, when we want to look at an issue, please let us not be too hasty. I want to emphasize that ecclesiastical authority here is not just a bishop, but even an episcopal conference. If that is the case, then would all the laypeople in Germany, if they do not follow that decision now, be entirely wrong? That is a question that needs to be raised.

Now, some people here are saying that the work we do is superstitious and affects people's fine customs and traditions. I apologize, but I have not seen anything done here that goes against people's fine customs and traditions. So, who is claiming that we are doing wrong here, affecting fine customs and traditions? Please let us know what constitutes fine customs and traditions, and what have the people here done to be considered as affecting fine customs and traditions?

To all those with opposing views, please come here and tell us specifically what you are saying. The work we do here is public, and we are not doing anything in secret. Therefore, please come and see, then make your comments. If you have not come to see and yet make such statements, then these criticisms are truly unwarranted.

On this occasion, I merely wish to highlight one aspect, as I have stated: any person undertaking any task always has a purpose. So, please try to put yourselves in our shoes: when we do such work, what is our purpose? It is costly for ourselves, time-consuming, and requires immense effort to help others. So, what do we gain from all this? What are we aiming for?

Our reputation? To this moment, all we have are defamed names. So, what do we gain? If one undertakes a task to achieve something, what is the specific outcome? Especially in terms of profit, what financial benefits do we receive in this regard? 

Please kindly try to understand us a little, to avoid negative reactions or opposing views about us. I only hope that you will observe correctly, perceive accurately, and judge fairly

Father Martino: Thank you, Father Dominic, for sharing your perspective with everyone. Through your sharing, I also realize that many people are quick to judge, unwilling to seek understanding, and instead speak publicly, before public opinion. I hope that those who speak in such a manner will refrain, because before God, if we view it from a religious perspective, if what we say about our brethren is untrue, we will be judged by God. Therefore, we should not engage in such actions.

Amidst this dissenting public opinion, many have claimed that Thien Thuong is a cult, a leader of evil, and have used terms that are not pleasant to hear at all. So, can Thien Thuong share their perspective when public opinion views them in this way?

Thien Thuong: I would like to share a little with you and everyone. When I bring the truth to light, when I bring sinners back to God, when I help the sick be healed, when I help people receive God's grace and escape the temptation of the devil, when I help souls return to God, those who are astray, living in sin, living in the degradation of today's world, they have fasted, prayed, and lived according to what God has taught. So I ask, is that the temptation of the devil? Am I the devil?

I would like to state that the devil never incites people to do good. The devil only wants everyone to belong to him, wants people to stray from God. If the devil does good and brings everyone back to God, then what souls does the devil gain?

And to those who call me a heretic, I would like to say that when the devil comes here. When I write God's word, the devil must obey and do everything under God's direction. This 'heresy' cannot be done by the devil. Only God can control the devil. And I am a worker for God.

Father Martino: Thank you, Thien Thuong, for affirming to everyone that all we do is under God's guidance. We are not a cult, nor are we like many in the dissenting public opinion who claim that we cause disorder and instability in society and in the Church. If we pay close attention to all the interviews Thien Thuong has shared, Thien Thuong always affirms that these actions come from God. Countless times, God has called Thien Thuong to bear witness for Him, to tell humanity that these are actions stemming from God's mercy and power.

But those who oppose, those who intentionally do not want to believe, still do not believe. With today's interview, perhaps we continue to hope. Those who have not yet believed, please continue to listen, do not judge hastily. Open your hearts and ask questions. May the Holy Spirit guide us so that we may also recognize that what Thien Thuong does is out of necessity. Thien Thuong must obey God and act, rather than seeking out this work on their own.

If we think that doing these works is for some personal purpose or benefit, then please ask yourselves: do I want to do this work? Does doing this work bring us what we desire? If we pay attention to today's talk, we will see that those who work not out of love for others and love for God cannot do this work.

So if any of you listening still do not believe, ask yourselves: do I have enough love for God and love for others? If we think we can do it, then boldly ask God for strength. But if we feel that we are still sinful people, then we should not judge, we should not criticize, lest we speak words that cause others to increasingly stray from God.

Thank you, Father Dominic and Thien Thuong, for sharing what the dissenting public needs to know. Hopefully, today's interview will help many people realize that some dissenting opinions are completely contrary to the truth, so that we can live in peace and love. Thank you, Father Dominic. Thank you, Thien Thuong. And thank you, dear audience, for listening to today's interview.

Father Dominic: Thank you to all our esteemed audience for taking the time to follow the interview. Thank you all.

Thien Thuong: Thanks be to God. Thank you, Father Martino and all the esteemed audience watching the program 'Voice of Truth'.